The Seventh Future: Israel/Palestine

Below is the full text of “The Seventh Future,” which appeared in Ha’aretz this past weekend and in The Times (U.K.) on Saturday, in a slightly shorter form. (It turns out you can’t get the Times one online without signing up.) Many thanks to the several better-informed friends who helped with this piece by commenting on the drafts. Please note that none of the futures — even those that seem too good or too bad — are unimaginable. The things in all seven have happened to human beings before.

Here is a link from one of my correspondents: “I think that imagining the future, and remembering how we got there, can serve as a great tool for conflict resolution.  Are you familiar with the work of the Quaker Sociologist Elise M. Boulding? I would guess you are, but in case you are not, check out how she developed imagining forward <http://www.gmu.edu/programs/icar/pcs/EB83PCS.htm>  as a technique in conflict resolution workshop.”

Here is a link to a Charlie Rose May 28 interview with the head of Hamas, for those who think that no agreement will ever be possible: http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11032

And here is an alarming sign that neither the second nor the third futures in “The Seventh Future” is out of the question:

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/formalizing_israels_land_grab_20100816/

For earlier pieces on this subject, scroll back to “The Shadow over Israel,” and to the three pieces that report what people actually said to me in Israel and the West Bank.

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THE SEVENTH FUTURE

Picture a minor prophet. Perhaps he’d be working today as an astrologer. He’s looking towards Israel and Palestine, consulting his charts and stars, getting a handle on the future. But the future is never single — there are too many variables – so what he sees is a number of futures.

In the first one, there’s no Israel: it’s been destroyed in war and all the Israelis have been killed. (Unlikely, but not impossible.) In the second, there’s no Palestine: it’s been merged with Israel, and the Palestinians either slaughtered or driven beyond its borders. Israel has become completely isolated: international opinion has been outraged, boycott measures have been successful, financial aid from the U.S. — both public and private – has evaporated, and the United States government, weakened by the huge debt caused by its Iraqi and Afghani wars and lured by the promise of mineral wealth and oil, has cooled towards Israel and swung towards entente with the Muslim world. Israel has become like North Korea or Burma – an embattled military state – and civilian rights have suffered accordingly. The moderate Israelis have emigrated, and live as exiles, in a state of bitterness over wasted opportunities and blighted dreams.

In the third future there’s one state, but a civil war has resulted, since the enlarged population couldn’t agree on a common flag, a common history, a common set of laws, or a common set of commemoration days — “victory” for some being “catastrophe” for others. In the fourth, the one-state solution has had better results: it’s a true one-person, one-vote secular democracy, with equal rights for all. (Again, unlikely in the immediate future, but not impossible in the long run.)

In the fifth future, neither Israel nor Palestine exist: several atomic bombs have cleared the land of human beings, though wildlife is flourishing, as at Chernobyl. In the sixth, climate change has turned the area into a waterless desert.

But there’s another future: the seventh future. In this future there are two states, “Israel” and “Palestine.” Both are flourishing, and both are members of a regional council that deals with matters affecting the whole area. Trade flows harmoniously between the two viable states, joint development enterprises have been established, know-how is being shared, and, as in Northern Ireland, peace is paying dividends.

That, surely, is a desirable outcome, thinks the stargazer; but how was it achieved? Since he has the gift of virtual time travel, he leaps into the seventh future and looks back at the steps taken to get there.

The impetus came from within Israel. The Israeli leaders saw that the wind had shifted: it was now blowing against the earlier policy of crushing force and the appropriation of occupied lands. What had caused this change? Was it the international reaction to the destructive Cast Lead invasion of Gaza? The misjudged killing of flotilla activists? The gathering boycott activities in the United States and Europe? The lobbying of organizations such as J-Street? The 2010 World Zionist Congress vote to support a settlement freeze and endorse a two-state solution?

For whatever reasons, Israel had lost control of its own story. It was no longer Jack confronting a big bad Giant: the narrative of the small country struggling bravely against overwhelming odds had moved over to the Palestinians. The mantra, “Plant a tree in Israel,” was no longer respectable, as it evoked images of bulldozers knocking down Palestinian olive groves. Israel could not continue along its current path without altering its own self-image beyond recognition. The leadership read the signs correctly and decided to act before a peaceful resolution slipped forever beyond reach. Leaders are supposed to guide their people towards a better and more secure future, they thought: not over the edge of a cliff.

First, the Golan Heights was returned to Syria under a pact that created a demilitarized zone with international supervision. The few Israeli inhabitants were allowed to remain if they wished, though they then paid taxes to Syria.

Then, with the help of a now-friendly Syria, Hamas was invited to the peace negotiations. The enlightened leaders – with an eye to Northern Ireland — realized that they couldn’t set as a precondition something that remained to be negotiated, so they didn’t demand the pre-recognition of Israel as a Jewish state. Hamas, to the surprise of many, accepted the invitation, as it had nothing to lose by doing so. Peace was made between Fatah and Hamas, and Palestine was thus able to present a single negotiating team.

The negotiations were complex, but people worked hard not to lose their tempers. Several North American First Nations negotiators were invited as coaches, as they had much long-term experience and patience, and –remembering South Africa – they knew that yelling and denouncing would not accomplish anything. As soon as they stepped off the plane, they smudged with sage to cleanse the region of its buildup of fear, anger, and hatred, and despair, and with sweetgrass to attract positive emotions.

The agreement took less time than expected, as happens when people are serious. Then the Occupation – disastrous for those in both countries, both physically and morally — was over, and Palestinian independence was declared. A mutual defense pact was signed, along with a trade and development pact. As Israel had realized that it could not rest its foundation on international law while also violating that law, the borders reverted to those of 1967, with a few land swaps along the edges. Jerusalem was declared an international city, with both an Israeli parliament building and a Palestinian one, and access to the various holy sites for believers.

Gaza was joined to the West Bank by corridors, as in the East/West Germany of old; the ports were opened, and the fishing boats could sail once more. Development money poured in, creating full employment. The water situation was rectified, with fair-access agreements signed, pollution cleaned up, and more fresh water created through a new cheap solar-driven desalination process.

What about the difficult matter of the Settlements? The First Nations advisors cited some of their own precedents: settlers could stay in Palestine if they wished, under lease agreements. The leases and taxes paid by the settlers were a source of income to the Palestinian state, and as their products were no longer boycotted, the Settlements did better. On the whole, peace and security reigned. There was even a shared Memorial Day, in which all those fallen in past wars were honoured.

The seventh future is within reach — the stars favour it — but the stargazer knows that many prefer the status quo: there can be advantage as well as profit in conflict. However, change often comes abruptly, like the fall of the Berlin Wall, the storming of the Bastille, or the end of Apartheid. The amount of blood shed during such transitions – from none to a great deal — depends on the wisdom of the leadership.

How to promote such wisdom? It’s a prophet’s traditional duty to lay out the alternatives – the good futures, and also the bad ones. Prophets – unlike yes-men — tell the powerful not what they want to hear, but what they need to hear. “How can I put this?” thinks the stargazer. “Something beginning with the handwriting on the wall…?”

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  1. Jo

    Would love to see such a future achieved someday, but I wonder will so many be willing to back down and truly work toward peace rather than posturing and reopening old wounds so often. I hope so.

  2. Megan

    Are you stupid? I’m not Israeli or Palestinian (in fact, I’m an atheist) but I do know that there will be no peaceful negotiations as long as Islam is the mantra of the Palestinians. Have you read the Koran? Hadiths? Death to Jews was Mohammad’s mantra and is the mantra of Islam but dream on. Maybe, pigs will fly too, some day.

  3. Frank O'Neill

    Congratulations! Margaret..I thought my eyes were deceiving me when I read your article in The Times…Opinion page 14th august ’10.
    anytime a journalist/writer in the field of politics mentions ‘Northern Ireland’ my irish eyes sends signals to my brain, let me see!
    In Ireland (4 provinces/32Counties) hstorical events have left English readers into a conundrum..
    From the late 19th century (after the ‘great famine’) Catholics (nationalists) either emigrated to America, Australia, or moved to Belfast ( a protestant city) to find work, subsequently and with many experiences of Bigotry and violence they established their ghettos in the city. Their history was largely written out of the life of the city by their fellow christians indeed they were denied any notable involvment inthe business and professional life of the city.
    Lets call them ‘The Jews’
    Progressively as the Irish Republic was established in 1922 and Northern Ireland (6 county state) the catholic minority found them selves abandoned by their fellow Nationalists in the 26 county State and forced to live insignificant lives in Ghettos…sounds familatr to Hitlers Germany.
    Now the conondrum. The Protestant majority in the 6 county
    state were now the minority in the Larger Ireland and became the Jews and the minority Nationalists the Palestinians. As the frustration of the Catholics demanding Civil Rights from the mainly Protestant government been denied and brutally repressed and the resulting vacuum led to violence & a civil war ensued in the six counties of Northen Ireland.The Northern Ireland Government was eventually suspended as self serving by The British Government and a series of ‘English Consuls’ were sent to administer the state for the next 30 years..
    During these 30 years of Westminister rule and England began to study her ignorance of the Irish Problem 1.2,3,4,5,6,number of futures failed to solve the problem..Finally! the United States President Bill Clinton moved to involve the whole 32 counties of Ireland in the’Seventh Future’ and in all its fragility , suspicion, and promises of economic assistance to ‘all’ the people of the six counties the new birth of a Nation in all its swaddling clothes foud its feet.
    I presume Margaret this is your ‘dream’ for Israel & Palestine?

    As Saul of Tarsus said ‘We are Many ,but We are One’ Was He have been speaking as a Jew or Palestinian

    Shalom

    Frank

    better land for all

  4. Jeremy Colangelo

    I appreciated this story quite a bit, especially the part about Jerusalem becoming an international city–a solution that I have always favoured. Your story is essentially an optimist’s view of the future and, while I doubt that the two nations can surpass their religious issues so easily, it is nice to see that there is at least one future that doesn’t end in decimation. Maybe someday.

    Also, good job mentioning the Irish and the First Nations. It’s nice when people recognize that our contemporary problems are not unique, but are just re-skinned versions of issues we’ve dealt with before. Our leaders should study history more.

  5. Elly

    Margaret, although you have repeatedly censored my critical entirely non-racist comments on here, I will try again. From much of your writing and correspondence it is apparent that you take refuge in a false dichotomy between those you claim ‘think all Israelis are evil’ and those that are simply disturbed about/aware of the ‘shadow’ of the occupation and increasingly apartheid policies. By doing so you allows us only two choices – we support your anaemic, faux-prophetic guff as progressive or we are cast as haters when we ask you once again why you not only rejected the cultural boycott call but agitated against it. I wonder whether aside from a guilty conscience you have a rather profitable agreement with Haaretz. In your conceit and defensiveness it never seems to occur to you that you are taking up space that could be given over to genuinely knowledgeable and progressive commentators.

    This is the BDS call, including a call for a cultural boycott of Israel that you chose to pour scorn on, and a fundamental tenet of which you failed to address in your piece:

    We, representatives of Palestinian civil society, call upon international civil society organizations and people of conscience all over the world to impose broad boycotts and implement divestment initiatives against Israel similar to those applied to South Africa in the apartheid era. We appeal to you to pressure your respective states to impose embargoes and sanctions against Israel. We also invite conscientious Israelis to support this Call, for the sake of justice and genuine peace.

    These non-violent punitive measures should be maintained until Israel meets its obligation to recognize the Palestinian people’s inalienable right to self-determination and fully complies with the precepts of international law by:

    1. Ending its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands and dismantling the Wall;
    2. Recognizing the fundamental rights of the Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel to full equality; and
    3. Respecting, protecting and promoting the RIGHTS OF PALESTINIAN REFUGEES to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN resolution 194.

  6. TheLightSideoftheRiverCrag

    Margaret,

    A one state solution places more faith in human beings to bridge divides and live among one another.

    I do find it interesting that you and Green Party leader Elizabeth May are drawing closer, because that begets curiousity: are your policies her policies? In short, does Ms. May support a two state solution for Palestine?
    If she’s not yet sure, that’s fine, but I think, given the impassioned debate on this blog, that there are those that would certainly find all of this worthy of consideration.

    • marg09

      Hello Craig:

      I support Elizabeth May because it would be great to have her in Parliament. I don’t know about her Palestine policies — you might ask the Green Party? The green issues are in fact going to loom much larger

      I myself don’t have any hard-and-fast “policies” as such, as I am neither a government nor an NGO, and I am neither running for election nor trying to attract funding from corporations, religious groups, or governments. I see “policies” as “positions,” in the WW1 trench warfare sense: they are relative to the shifting configuration of the rest of the field. Thus: If the one state of the kind you favour seemed possible in the short-term future, I would support that. You are right that a one-state solution (the one-citizen one-vote same-rights kind) would show more faith in human beings, but there is so much distrust and fear … and who indeed would control the police force? But the fear at the moment — see the link to the Hedges piece — seems to be that that the other one-state solution (the kind discussed in the Chris Hedges piece) is now being seriously floated as a way to take over all of the Palestinian territory, sans Gaza. If that is the alternative, I would support the two-state solution. I expect you would as well.

  7. Ric

    Margaret, you are an excellent science fiction author (though you disclaim the genre lable), but your comments on the Israeli-Arab conflict slip into fantasy. Since WWI Jewish and Israeli leaders, from Weizmann to Netanyahu, have offered rational proposals for peaceful and prosperous co-existence to their Palestinian Arab counterparts. These have been consistently rejected because Jewish self-determination and independence
    is seen as an affront to the natural order in the Arab and wider
    Muslim world.
    The Israeli government’s first duty is to protect the physical safety of its citizens. The goal of Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and the like is to replace Israel and the disputed territories with an oppressive theocracy in a state of permanent upheaval, a cross between Lebanon and Afghanistan. Your masterpiece ‘The Handmaid’s Tale’ would be their reality – not the fantasy you paint in your article,

  8. Elly

    You are right, Ric, it is a fantasy. The excellent Ran Greenstein article published this weekend: Israel/Palestine and the apartheid analogy – critics, apologists and strategic lessons (http://www.israeli-occupation.org/2010-08-22/israel-palestine-and-the-apartheid-analogy-critics-apologists-and-strategic-lessons/) led me to an older Haaretz article by By Meron Benvenisti: United we stand (http://www.haaretz.com/magazine/friday-supplement/united-we-stand-1.262282). This is an excerpt:

    “Since it is impossible to refrain from reacting to the Palestinian demand for self-determination in the occupied territories, the Israelis seek to limit it to a mere quarter of them, those who live in the West Bank. For them they have invented a unique concept of a “state”: Its “sovereignty” will be scattered, lacking any cohesive physical infrastructure, with no direct connection to the outside world, and limited to the height of its residential buildings and the depth of its graves.

    The airspace and the water resources will remain under Israeli control. Helicopter patrols, the airwaves, the hands on the water pumps and the electrical switches, the registration of residents and the issue of identity cards, as well as passes to enter and leave, will all be controlled (directly or indirectly) by the Israelis. This ridiculous caricature of a Palestinian state, beheaded and with no feet, future, or any chance for development, is presented as fulfillment of the goal of symmetry and equality embodied in the old slogan, “two states for two peoples.” It is endorsed – even by supporters of Greater Israel – and the traditional peace camp rejoices in its triumph.

    Large segments of the Israeli peace camp, who staunchly believe in “partition of the land” as a metapolitical tenet, are gratified; they believe that they won the ideological, historical, debate with the right wing. Now they can load the entire Palestinian tragedy onto an entity that comprises less than 10 percent (areas A and B under the Oslo Accords) of the area of historic Palestine. Moreover, it is supposed to offer a solution to all refugees outside Palestine “who can return to the Palestinian mini-state,” and also provide a remedy for the Israeli-Palestinians who can achieve their collective rights in the Palestinian state. Indeed, a cheap and convenient solution; after all, it is seemingly based on the venerable model of the two-state solution.”

    Please take the time to read the entire article

    • Ric

      Thank you for your reply and the links to those very interesting articles. They provide an hallucinatory vision entirely at odds with the facts. Look at what happened to Palestine between 1949 and 1967. The parts outside the State of Israel were divided up between Jordan, Egypt and Syria. Their Jewish inhabitants were expelled under pain of death; their Arab inhabitants were penned in squalid refugee camps and denied citizenship or civil rights. No State of Palestine for them. There is only one Middle Eastern country in which Arabs enjoy equality under the law – Israel. Incidentally, the number of Arabs who left Israel after its foundation is matched by the number of Jews expelled from the 22 Arab countries at the same time – who were welcomed in by Israel, inducted into citizenship and now provide its ruling elite.
      For the past 62 years the Jews of Israel have made the best of their situation. Greenstein and Benvenisti seem to suggest that this very ability is of itself oppressive to the Palestinian Arabs. Antisemites (yes, I know both writers are Jews) have said as much throughout history: the Jew must be kept down, otherwise his talents will propel him to an unbearable level of equality.

  9. Eric Estrin

    Ms. Atwood,
    Why did you write in Haaretz that a Save the Children U.K. report blamed Israel for a high mortality and malnutrition rate in Area C Palestinian children? As you surely know, the report makes no mention of anything like this. Do you feel your fabrication was justified because it serves what you see as the greater good? Did you just make a mistake? Have you conflated the your essay-writing with your fiction writing? Please explain.

    • marg09

      Dear Eric: This is from a piece by Chris Hedges called “Formalizing Israel’s Land Grab’: “The punishing conditions imposed by the Israeli blockade of the 1.5 million Palestinians living in Gaza have been replicated for the roughly 40,000 Palestinians who live in “Area C,” the 60 percent of the West Bank that remains under complete Israeli military control. Save the Children, UK (STCUK), in a recent report called “Life on the Edge” argues that Israeli policies of land confiscation, expanding settlements, lack of basic services such as food, water, shelter and medical clinics are at “a crisis point.” The report concludes that food security problems are even worse than in Gaza. According to the report, “ … Seventy-nine percent of communities surveyed recently don’t have enough nutritious food; this is higher than in blockaded Gaza where the rate is 61 percent.” Palestinian children growing up in Area C experience, according to the report, malnutrition and stunted growth at double the level of children in Gaza. Forty-four percent of these children were found to suffer from diarrhea, often with lethal effects. STCUK writes that “Israel’s restrictions on Palestinian access to and development of agricultural land—in an area where almost all families are herders—mean that thousands of children are going hungry and are vulnerable to killer illnesses like diarrhea and pneumonia.”

      Reading the tables in the report itself, one must keep in mind that HRA means “High Risk Area,” that HRA’s co-relate strongly with home destructions, and that most home destructions in the West Bank are in Area C. As Area C is under complete Israeli military control, the conditions described above — especially those connected with restrictions on access to agricultural land — must be the responsiblity of those with complete control, must they not? I hope this answers your question.

  10. Hyptia

    I used to read your books, but in future, no matter what you write, I will not be in your audience. There are plenty of excellent writers who do not stoop to outright lies on a matter of international importance.

    I thought I was beyond shocked at the anti-Israel vituperation all over the media by (uninformed, one hopes),or simply run of the mill Jew haters. But when I read CAMERA’s account of your totally fabricated charges, I decided that’s it.

    It’s a truism that a lie goes 100 times around the world before the truth gets out of bed.

    You have to live with your own conscience.

    Should you choose to re-examine the documents which you so carelessly, hastily, or duplicitously
    read, and to issue a strong statement withdrawing those outright lies, perhaps it will ease your conscience — just a little. And cause you to be as careful as a writer — or anyone else! — should be in ascertaining facts, vs. biased opinions.

    • marg09

      Dear Hypatia: This is from a piece by Chris Hedges: “The punishing conditions imposed by the Israeli blockade of the 1.5 million Palestinians living in Gaza have been replicated for the roughly 40,000 Palestinians who live in “Area C,” the 60 percent of the West Bank that remains under complete Israeli military control. Save the Children, UK (STCUK), in a recent report called “Life on the Edge” argues that Israeli policies of land confiscation, expanding settlements, lack of basic services such as food, water, shelter and medical clinics are at “a crisis point.” The report concludes that food security problems are even worse than in Gaza. According to the report, “ … Seventy-nine percent of communities surveyed recently don’t have enough nutritious food; this is higher than in blockaded Gaza where the rate is 61 percent.” Palestinian children growing up in Area C experience, according to the report, malnutrition and stunted growth at double the level of children in Gaza. Forty-four percent of these children were found to suffer from diarrhea, often with lethal effects. STCUK writes that “Israel’s restrictions on Palestinian access to and development of agricultural land—in an area where almost all families are herders—mean that thousands of children are going hungry and are vulnerable to killer illnesses like diarrhea and pneumonia.”

      You can look in the report itself, where there are many tables of statistics. Perhaps you have some other statistics, gathered by a different organization, which contradict those compiled by STUCK. And perhaps some other entity –other than Israel — actually controls Area C. If so, please supply this information.

  11. marg09

    Thanks Hypatia. Meanwhile here is the Save the Children press release from June, 2010:

    Save the Children:

    Children in West Bank facing worse conditions than in Gaza

    http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/FERB-86VD9T?OpenDocument&RSS20=02-P

    Areas of the West Bank under complete Israeli control have plummeted into a humanitarian crisis worse than Gaza, Save the Children warns.

    A new report, “Life on the Edge”, released today, states that an estimated 40,000 Palestinians living in Area C – the 60% of the West Bank under Israeli control – are unable to make urgent repairs to their sewage systems, schools, homes or hospitals under Israel’s strict permit system.

    Israel’s restrictions on Palestinian access to and development of agricultural land – in an area where almost all families are herders – mean that thousands of children are going hungry and are vulnerable to killer illnesses like diarrhoea and pneumonia.

    Conditions for children in Area C have reached a crisis point:

    79% of communities surveyed recently in Area C don’t have enough nutritious food – this is higher than in blockaded Gaza where the rate is 61%.

    84% of families rely on some form of humanitarian assistance to survive.

    Rates of stunting in Area C are more than double than in Gaza. More than 15% of children under-5 surveyed were underweight.

    An alarming 44% of children in the surveyed area have diarrhoea – the biggest killer of children under-5 in the world.

    Salam Kanaan, Save the Children UK’s Country Director said: “in the past week, the international community has rightly focused its attention on the suffering of families in Gaza but the plight of children in Area C must not be overlooked.

    “Palestinians in the West Bank are widely thought to enjoy a higher standard of living but tragically many families, particularly in Bedouin and herder communities, actually suffer significantly higher levels of malnutrition and poverty.”

    Across Area C, children are forced to learn in overcrowded, makeshift classrooms without electricity, access to functioning toilets or safe drinking water. Aid agencies are limited in what they can do to help by tight restrictions on building imposed by Israel.

    Salam Kanaan said: “Palestinian children cannot wait for the stalled peace talks between the Palestinian Authority, Israel and the United States to find solutions to this crisis. Urgent action must be taken by the Palestinian Authority and the international community to ensure that children have safe homes and proper classrooms, enough food to eat and clean water to drink.”

    Save the Children works with the most vulnerable children in Area C providing counselling to children whose homes have demolished along with stationary and books for school. The organisation also does urgent repairs to damaged buildings and agricultural land where possible.

    Notes to Editors:

    Figures in release taken from Life on the Edge (Save the Children report with research funded by the European Commission Humanitarian AID Office, June 2010) and Food Security and Nutrition Survey of Herding Communities in Area C (joint UNRWA/UNICEF/WFP Household Survey, April 2010)

    For further information please contact Christine Whitehouse on +44 207 012 6701.
    With the exception of public UN sources, reproduction or redistribution of the above text, in whole, part or in any form, requires the prior consent of the original source. The opinions expressed in the documents carried by this site are those of the authors and are not necessarily shared by UN OCHA or ReliefWeb.

  12. L’angélisme bennais, des fourbes et fanatisé, est une constante historique pour croire une histoire mensongère. La réalité d’Israël-Palestine dépasse les théories, manipulations religieuses et les positionnements politiques.
    Si vous regardez la carte du monde, vous verrez qu’Israël est un nain qui tient dans ses bras 2 bébés nazis en otage (la Palestine et Gaza) pour échapper à son génocide promis par le Hamas et tout l’islamisme musulman qui est plus fort que lui, sur tous les rapports qui comptent aujourd’hui. Politique, pétrole, commerce, nombre d’habitants, etc. Israël tient dans un ghetto de plus en plus réduit et malgré sa colonisation ne fera pas de lui un pays de plusieurs millions de km², il restera toujours minuscule, donc il se complique en créant des zones de sécurité de moins en moins tenables dans le temps avec ses voisins. Malgré ma grande compassion pour les palestiniens, et il le faut, ce sont les israéliens qui sont véritablement en danger, et La Solution Final qui est très simple pour les “imbéciles de tout poil” de l’intérieur et de l’extérieur d’Israël, prouve la difficile viabilité sur le terrain, les guerres passées prouvent que non. Vous étés en train de mettre Israël dans un ghetto international et si c’est dans les frontières de 67, plus retour des refugiés etc, nous passerons à la fasse final des Camps d’extermination des juifs, ainsi vous pouvez dire. “on a rien vu venir”, ni su, ni entendu, comme pour la Shoah. La misère intellectuelle des médias et de la politique est rendue à manipuler les gens.
    Les palestiniens ne sont pas au paradis, ni les israéliens non plu, mais ils sont peut-être mieux que demain avec vos projets simplistes et démentiels à la fois. Les hordes du Hamas lâchées tout autour avec des armes modernes, fournies par la France, l’Iran etc. Avec un Israël réduit à des frontière intenables et tous ses problèmes sécuritaires tombera et vous exulterez de joie pour commencer; et les croyants, athées, humanistes de droite ni de gauche ne pouront pas tenir Israël à flot ni a bout de bras, comme ils tiennent 7 millions de Palestiniens depuis plus de 60 ans. Car Israël sera détruit par l’islamisme qui beaucoup des pays de grands plus éloignes de la Ligne de Front qu’Israël les craignent a faire peur USA; CE, Russie, Chine Inde, etc, mais selon vous Israël ne devrai pas craindre les islamistes avec les conditions d’un accord (de paille) signé par les “faux modérés” et non validé par les extrémistes. Si cela soulage vos consciences pareil qu’à ceux qui n’ont pas vu venir depuis l’arrivée d’Hitler en 1932 faire de l’antisémitisme, criminel et après “des hôtels 5 étoiles du ghetto de Varsovie”, ni construire plus de 80 camps donc certains d’extermination pour les juifs” Est-ce que les gens qui n’ont pas était amenés là-bas, se sont sentis discriminées en pensant qu’ils allaient à des “parcs de loisirs”? “On n’a pas su” mensonge”! Ainsi pour Palestine-Israël vous préparez un autre génocide en espérant que les palestiniens soient les vainqueurs et les sauvés. Mais si l’aide international ne l’ont pas demain, ils seront plus malheureux qu’aujourd’hui, car jamais ne produirons plus du 20% de ce qui lui faut pour vivre. Même si Israël est détruit ce n’est pas ce casse-croûte d’Israël qui sauvera 1,2 milliards de musulmans dans le monde des famines à venir, bien au contraire, le monde va péricliter avec la Mort d’Israël et cela je ne le prédis pas, je vous le garanti. Je ne suis pas juif, ni prophète, mais lucide, et c’est un luxe que de nos jours peu de monde peut se le permettre quand il appartient à un courant d’opinion, une chapelle, à un journal, ou pays que par ses intérêts, culture religion etc qui est son gagne-pain, vous n’êtes pas libres d’être justes ni logiques jusqu’au bout.
    Je voudrais la lune pour tous, mais il y a qui ont la croix et d’autres rien ou que l’angélisme avec les anges, ou sans. Point

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